Williams is responding to Jann Wenner's latest long-form "interview" (this time the scare quotes are justified) with President Obama in Rolling Stone. Wenner's panegyric intimations lie more toward using RS as a soapbox to insist how hip Democratic politicians can be, and the results are at least as embarrassing as the John Kerry interview in 2004. The difference is that in addition to questions about what Obama thinks of Bono or Bob Dylan, the subject turns, temporarily, to hip-hop. Says the B-Boy-In-Chief:
Thanks to Reggie [Love, the president's personal aide], my rap palate has greatly improved. Jay-Z used to be sort of what predominated, but now I've got a little Nas and a little Lil Wayne and some other stuff, but I would not claim to be an expert. Malia and Sasha are now getting old enough to where they start hipping me to things. Music is still a great source of joy and occasional solace in the midst of what can be some difficult days.Obama also mentioned being a big fan of Stevie Wonder, Miles Davis, the Rolling Stones, and classical opera ("There are days where Maria Callas is exactly what I need"), but his comments about rap being acceptable and even fun to listen to were what got the Fox Nation's goat (though Obama had noted even before he was president that he was a big Jay-Z fan). And then Thomas Chatterton Williams, author of the memoir Losing My Cool: How a Father's Love and 15,000 Books Beat Hip-Hop Culture, became so appalled by the mere mention of Lil Wayne in the Oval Office that he started his column thusly:
What's on President Obama's iPod? A wide range, he told Rolling Stone magazine last week, from the jazz of John Coltrane to the ballads of Maria Callas. And more: "My rap palate has greatly improved," Mr. Obama noted. "Jay-Z used to be sort of what predominated, but now I've got a little Nas and a little Lil Wayne and some other stuff, but I would not claim to be an expert."Expert or not, that's the wrong message for the president to be sending black America.
The "wrong message": being passingly familiar with one of the dominant forms of African-American music, which is somehow insulting to the character of all African-Americans. The subtext: yes, Obama is indeed a Scary Black Man. Continue:
Does Mr. Obama like Lil Wayne's "Lil Duffle Bag Boy"? In that song, the rapper implores young black men to "go and get their money" through round-the-clock drug hustling. And with Lil Wayne, it's not just an act: The rapper is currently serving a one-year term on Rikers Island after being caught in New York with drugs and guns stashed in his Louis Vuitton overnighter.Mr. Williams happens to be correct about Lil Wayne serving at Rikers, but I have no idea why he chose as his example a song that a) is by Playaz Circle, and only features Lil Wayne, b) is called "Duffle Bag Boy" (no "Lil") and c) being about drug-running, has no connection to the weapons charge that landed him in jail. Let's be clear: by "drugs and guns," Mr. Williams is trying to imply a great deal more than one (1) .40 caliber pistol that was registered to his manager and happened to be in a bag close to his person. Hell, let's be crystal: Mr. Williams is trying to imply that any black man who goes to jail is never to be trusted or admired again, even if he has served his time, even if he seems repentant about the issue, even if he's on suicide watch--never mind that. Jail! Drugs! Guns! Hippity-Hop!
Lil Wayne is emblematic of a hip-hop culture that is ignorant, misogynistic, casually criminal and often violent. A self-described gangster, he is a modern-day minstrel who embodies the most virulent racist stereotypes that generations of blacks have fought to overcome. His music is a vigorous endorsement of the pathologies that still haunt and cripple far too many in the black underclass.I understand and sympathize with the argument that hip-hop artists are given a free pass when it comes to issues of misogyny, casual homophobia, violence and general gangsta cliches. Modern pop radio is partially responsible for generally spurning lyrical and musical innovation in exchange for vacuous celebrity self-worship and lazy, repeatable innuendo. It remains in my mind of the utmost importance for music journalists to develop new modes of critical vocabulary when it comes to the discussion of hip-hop, to avoid endless valorization in terms of "flow" and "skill" when many popular rappers assert themselves as brands as opposed to musicians.
But calling Lil Wayne a "modern-day minstrel," with no qualifications, is beyond the pale. In order to believe something like that, you need to buy in, heavily, to these "virulent racist stereotypes," as if black hip-hop fans lack the agency to appreciate the music without buying into the lifestyle. A clue can be found in his last sentence: "His music is a vigorous endorsement of the pathologies that still haunt and cripple far too many in the black underclass." This makes perfect sense, if you believe that these "pathologies" are inherent in black people and entirely the fault of a monolithic underclass. Never mind institutionalized racism and the pitiful job prospects of post-industrial America: if only popular musicians would stop talking about bitches and hos, all those nagging pathologies would stay nice and dormant.
Why not stop there? Obama has also conveyed his taste for (and therefore must endorse everything ever said by) the artists behind the following:Thus President Obama has conveyed his taste for the rapper behind lyrics like:
Put that white widow weed in the cigar and puff
look, ma, I'm trying to make a porno starring us
well not just us, a couple foreign sluts
Naming thuggish rappers might make Mr. Obama seem relatable and cool to a generation of Americans under the sway of hip-hop culture, but it sends a harmful message—especially when, in black America, some 70% of babies are born out of wedlock.
White girls, they're pretty funnyOr
Sometimes they drive me mad
Black girls just wanna get fucked all night
I just don't have that much jam
Chinese girls are so gentle
They're really such a tease
You never know what they're cockin'
Inside those silky sleeves.
She takes, just like a womanRacism. Misogyny. And how can he admire a woman who shacked up with Aristotle Onassis when so many black children are born out of wedlock? Miles Davis and John Coltrane were both addicted to heroin--does Obama believe casual drug use is okay for musicians? I'm just asking, yo! you decide.
She makes love, just like a woman
And she aches, just like a woman
But she breaks, just like a little girl
(I would have loved to witness Mr. Williams' Google search for rap lyrics terrifying enough to alarm the boomers but also excerptable in a major newspaper).
The article goes on to quote similarly suspect lyrics from Jay-Z (Nas gets the shaft, due to space restrictions I guess), who is described by Mr. Williams as a "rapper and unrepentant ex-drug dealer" who has "been photographed sitting in Mr. Obama's chair in the White House Situation Room." This of course begs the question: "What president would ever let Marilyn Manson drop by the White House? Is Jay-Z any better?"
Good question. Would Mr. Williams be writing about it? Obviously not, because of course Marilyn Manson does not represent the pathologies of "white culture" in the way that Lil Wayne and Jay-Z, being official representatives of their race, do. Also, it's 2010.
I've known a few ex-drug dealers, some of whom remain unrepentant, and I can tell you that neither they nor Marilyn Manson have committed anything close to the sorts of heinous activities perpetrated by certain Washington lobbyists and Wall Street bankers in the last couple years. Not even close. These are the power players that are invited to the White House on a daily basis. In order to believe that Jay-Z's White House visit represents a lowering of Presidential standards, you must honestly be convinced that African-Americans who once dealt drugs aren't fit to grace the same halls as Jack Abramoff and Bernard Kerik, to say nothing of the actual war criminals who once occupied significant portions of our Executive branch. It requires turning a specific kind of blind eye--a kind that would have to be inured to all the horrors brought about by exporting American culture--with the exception of black people rhyming, over beats.
Williams, by the way, is black, not that such a fact would change my consideration of his essential cluelessness regarding rap music and race. Check out his absurd bio:
Like many young men in America, Thomas Chatterton Williams grew up in awe of Tupac Shakur, Biggie Smalls, and the parade of bling-bedecked rap stars he saw on Black Entertainment Television. Williams emulated their lifestyle - sporting chains and expensive designer clothes purchased for him by his girlfriends, who were themselves little more than accessories to Williams.Williams' bio is candid about the fact that he used to be a pretty big asshole. Judging by this description, I agree: he was a prick. Treating women like "accessories" is, yes, a bad thing. Young Mr. Williams really does sound emblematic of everything terrible in hip-hop culture. Myself, I generally stop paying attention whenever cultural conservatives start to say "I used to have so many girlfriends," before going on to lament modern sexual permissiveness, but let's continue.
In LOSING MY COOL: How a Father's Love and 15,000 Books Beat Hip-Hop Culture (The Penguin Press; May 2010; $24.95), Williams describes how he managed to juggle these two disparate lifestyles--"keeping it real" in his friends' eyes and studying for the SATs under his father's strict tutelage. Pappy grew up in the segregated South and hid in closets so he could read Aesop and Plato.Being able to "keep it real" while simultaneously studying for one's SATS--it kind of is like the segregated South! Especially given Young Williams' father had to deal with the pernicious influence of Tupac's famous anthem "Plato and Aesop Iz Gay (Don't Ever Read That Shit)" or Biggie's "Make Sure To Treat Your Multiple Girlfriends Like Accessories (Make Them Buy Your Clothes Also)."
Well, I kid. Having not read Losing My Cool, I can't know for sure, but I'm sure the message is that if you're a young black man, if you manage to make it through high school without the demon Hip-Hop turning you to a life of drug-dealing and ho-abusing, you may one day use all the knowledge acquired from reading 15,000 books to selectively quote scary rap lyrics you've obviously never heard before, in the interest of making sure a public figure can never again exercise his or her aesthetic judgment when it comes to personal music preferences. Or alternately, I guess you can listen to all types of music, even if the subject matter is sometimes troubling, and focus on more important issues than whether or not a particular artist makes your race look clean and law-abiding. Maybe then you could be president, and not a tiresome moralizer who is obviously uncomfortable with how much of an asshole he used to be as a teenager. It isn't the demon Hip-Hop, Thomas: It's YOU.
YOU had a hard time treating women with respect. YOU were the one who decided the general takeaway message from hip-hop was wearing designer clothes and huge, ungainly chains. And then, when you must have realized what a ridiculous cliche your life had become, instead of choosing a more enlightened path YOU decided to latch onto another polarizing cliche, that rap music was the thing keeping you down all along. For every example you can bring up of lyrics that "diminish blacks," I can provide three or four counter-examples. Others could probably provide a lot more. Hell, I can show you stories of legit, card-carrying African-Americans who have indeed been empowered by a particular rap song, as have I to a certain degree.
Here's one:
Surely someone who has read 15,000 books, including Plato, knows better than to trade in such sophistries, or at least has heard of P.E. or "The Message"?
ReplyDeleteGuess not. Great post.
I'm not sure if the "15,000 books" tag refers to him or his father but the point basically still stands.
ReplyDeleteBTW he has a "playlist" on his web site that is 7/10 hip-hop, so I guess the message is simply that an American president who happens to be black (and remember, we've had just one of those so far) can't talk about liking hip-hop, but others can.
Not a bad list though ("So What" is ubiquitous for a reason). Or a bad web site design: http://thechattertonreview.com/
Dear Nathan,
ReplyDeleteThe 15k books refers to what my father has in the house and worked his whole life to accumulate--not what, at 29 years, I've already read. I got your tweet and looked you up on facebook and can see that you're a fellow NYU grad student. I can also see that you're not black. Which is not to say that you can't be an expert on hip-hop, have a deep relationship with the music and culture, or criticize a black writer's work on the subject. But, as I pointed out to Jeff Chang (and I believe he agreed with me on this point at least) it is to say that you necessarily have a different relationship to the culture than you would have if you were black.
I didn't have the space to get into this in the op-ed you're referring to, but in my book I try to explain why hip-hop culture affects blacks negatively in ways it does not and cannot affect non-blacks.
Which is why, yes, as you point out in your comment above, I am saying that as the president of the USA and as a black man in a huge leadership position, a black man who has taken it upon himself to comment on issues of black culture and identity, Barack Obama has an obligation not to publicly contradict himself on the subject. By publicly recognizing those rappers--without qualification or criticism--he did just that, and it was a calculated message to appear cool, which is precisely the problem.
As for the "playlist" on my website, the idea behind that was simply to provide a kind of chronological soundtrack to the book. It's no endorsement of hip-hop, nor is it a reflection of where I am now. You can see that the last three songs move away from hip-hop entirely.
Furthermore, I'm not a music critic. I'm only interested in criticizing hip-hop as a culture, an identity, and a system of values and ideas. So, no, Marilyn Manson doesn't represent white identity the way that Jay-Z reps black identity in 2010. The reason being that hip-hop--unlike any other genre of music I can think of--is not a genre of music so much as it's a secular religion that impacts an entire generation or two of African Americans (as well as non-blacks).
I'm not criticizing lyrics. I'm criticizing a president winking at a certain kind of culture in order to seem cool. I volunteered for Obama's campaign in both the primaries and the general election, and I can tell you, I wasn't cold-calling people from phone banks and walking around knocking on doors for him so that Jay-Z could have access to the White House. That's not where my hopes were at all.
Peace,
Thomas
Dear Nathan,
ReplyDeleteThe 15k books refers to what my father has in the house and worked his whole life to accumulate--not what, at 29 years, I've already read. I got your tweet and looked you up on facebook and can see that you're a fellow NYU grad student. I can also see that you're not black. Which is not to say that you can't be an expert on hip-hop, have a deep relationship with the music and culture, or criticize a black writer's work on the subject. But, as I pointed out to Jeff Chang (and I believe he agreed with me on this point at least) it is to say that you necessarily have a different relationship to the culture than you would have if you were black.
I didn't have the space to get into this in the op-ed you're referring to, but in my book I try to explain why hip-hop culture affects blacks negatively in ways it does not and cannot affect non-blacks.
Which is why, yes, as you point out in your comment above, I am saying that as the president of the USA and as a black man in a huge leadership position, a black man who has taken it upon himself to comment on issues of black culture and identity, Barack Obama has an obligation not to publicly contradict himself on the subject. By publicly recognizing those rappers--without qualification or criticism--he did just that, and it was a calculated message to appear cool, which is precisely the problem.
As for the "playlist" on my website, the idea behind that was simply to provide a kind of chronological soundtrack to the book. It's no endorsement of hip-hop, nor is it a reflection of where I am now. You can see that the last three songs move away from hip-hop entirely.
Furthermore, I'm not a music critic. I'm only interested in criticizing hip-hop as a culture, an identity, and a system of values and ideas. So, no, Marilyn Manson doesn't represent white identity the way that Jay-Z reps black identity in 2010. The reason being that hip-hop--unlike any other genre of music I can think of--is not a genre of music so much as it's a secular religion that impacts an entire generation or two of African Americans (as well as non-blacks).
I'm not criticizing lyrics. I'm criticizing a president winking at a certain kind of culture in order to seem cool. I volunteered for Obama's campaign in both the primaries and the general election, and I can tell you, I wasn't cold-calling people from phone banks and walking around knocking on doors for him so that Jay-Z could have access to the White House. That's not where my hopes were at all.
Peace,
Thomas
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ReplyDeletemy bad for posting that so many times, my browser was messed up.
ReplyDeleteI would be first to point out that I'm not black, that to a great degree I'll always be alienated from the American black experience, that obviously growing up in a family that didn't really listen to hip-hop gives me a rather narrow perspective, etc. I come at hip-hop from a fan's perspective, but I'm no expert. I would never, ever, conflate hip-hop culture with black culture as a whole, and I would be first to condemn those (and there are a lot of people inclined to such arguments who live in Brooklyn) who do so.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree that "hip-hop culture affects blacks negatively in ways it does not and cannot affect non-blacks," I see that as more of a condition of a backwards, regressive music industry that rewards self-styled celebrity behavior and material consumption. I don't consider this, foundationally, to be what hip-hop stands for. Just as the punk movement started out as a bunch of independent players furious at a system that had no use for them (and would later morph into the MTV-ready corporate "punk" of Green Day), I look at hip-hop as a similarly legitimate expression that, as you know, grew out of a number of extramusical factors, break dancing and B-Boy culture of the late 70s, among other things. And then the money started rolling in, and the culture became more violent and repressive (money does that).
Maybe if you come at it from a socio-cultural as opposed to a musical perspective you can't help but develop a different opinion. But I don't see how you can stick with the line that Lil Wayne, as a "modern day minstrel," and Jay-Z, as an "unrepentant drug dealer," are somehow beyond redemption when it comes to who or who shouldn't be listening to them. I'm not the biggest fan of either, but both have had storied careers that occasionally amount to something more than the usual hip-hop cliches--Weezy on the response to Katrina in "Georgia...Bush" being one example that immediately comes to mind, or "I Feel Like Dying."
It's possible I guess that Obama's mentions were a complete pose, a pathetic run at his core demographic, and in that case I would find it (along with the rest of the RS interview) as silly and discomfiting as you did. I don't see what the net benefit is to him admitting he likes hip-hop--anyone who's inclined to agree with him is probably already voting for him, and it provides further ammunition to the "Obama is a Scary Black Man" crowd. I assume (in this particular case only!) that he is probably being honest.
Here's a question for you: even given what your intentions were with this editorial, don't you think it's likely to be construed in an entirely different way by the Wall Street Journal crowd? I would suggest reading some of the comments on your story from people who agree with you, and note how quick they are to invoke racial stereotypes both familiar and absurd. Surely you realize that the WSJ editorial page uses you and other writers to keep the anti-Obama rhetoric mill going? And that coded racial language (Obama = black = HE LOVES GANGSTA RAP) is just another way of keeping their business interests happy. Just in time for the 2010 elections, too.
ReplyDeleteJudging by your problems with your browser I think it would be best, if you want, to continue this by email rather than through these comments-- the address is npsacks [at] gmail [dot] com if you are interested. If you want, I'm willing to post any rebuttal sans editorializations. As I said in the post, I really do think there's a problem with white critics closing their eyes and looking the other way when it comes to hip-hop's history of glorifying violence, misogyny, homophobia, etc. Especially in Brooklyn, white people have a history of finding the hoariest of hip-hop cliches delightful. But to implicate the movement itself suggests something else, that it reflects all that is wrong with black culture, and since (as I stated before) I don't feel it's right to conflate the two, it rings of some false equivocating.